neděle 9. srpna 2009

kousek z yeshiho vilnius retreatu

zkoukla jsem v yeshiho videoknihovne 2009/retreats/vilnius a dost se mi to libilo no ale to je u mne normalni. Uplne na konci (i kdyz teda castecne i v prubehu) mluvi o tom, ze vedet co je to instant presence je jedna vec, ale dokopat se donutit verit, ze je v ni mozne a dobre "prijimat utociste" je vec druha a ze je potreba mysl "convince" ... a podrobne rozebira co clovek vlastne ma a nema delat kdyz nasleduje ucitele. Obcas se mne nekdo pta "kdyz jsem z toho dzogchenu jak je jako mozny ze tam nejsou zadna pravidla" a toto yeshiho vysvetleni mi pripada supr.

zacatek mozna potrebuje vysvetlit kontext.. predchazelo vysvetleni ze jsou 3 vrstvy (outer - fyzicka realita; omezena, pomijiva. inner - vnitrni myslenkovy svet; problem je ze furt chceme vnejsi realitu zmenit podle naseho vnitrniho vymyslu; secret - presence beyond thought)

There is problem, when we are focusing on something.
With this focusing, we want meaning, reward, like emotion, situation, something to happen.
But we remember that this is just logical scheme, how reality (outer world) works.
But we know that we don't have only that, we have inner and secret, too.
We should not rely on reality. Because reality is impermanent, we know this,
this means mindfullness. This is reality, outer world. But how can be
that inner world is impermanent.


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  2. Just observing how we are.
    For example glass i see because of light.
    Already in not impermanent, because in my mind i can see the glass with
    light always. This is "believing what is reflected". Instead i should say
    Aha the light is in this moment, it is circumstance. But how is my condition? I see
    this because of my eyes, but i have mind that is reflecting, the thought of this.
    In the end i don't rely on this object, i don't rely on inner reflection, but i
    try to observe all this. This is correct.

    But i need time to apply to believe that this is correct.

    For now i can only grasp for this glass and say yes this i feel.

    To understand that i can rely on my presence,
    on my awareness i need to ... build something i can believe.

    And dzogchen teachning says you choose whatever you like.

    You like the teacher that is lke buddha statue flying, ok, believe this,
    but remember - it is your choice.
    You want to believe the teacher that is the teacher only when sitting on throne
    and making some noise with bells, ok, you can. Whatever you prefere. But
    remember, it is your construction of mind. You choose like this, you want to
    believe this - purpose: to rely on your presence at the end.

    So you choose whatever you need, you choose whatever you like. But always remember,
    it's your choice, it's your responsibility what you choose.

    Never dzogchen teacher will say "you should do this". will always say you
    take your own responsibility. Because the keypoint is you become aware.
    So if for me is better to think this way, to do this way, i do.
    Then if for example i start to behave like.. hinduistic style, very strange.
    Then a lot of people say But what are you doing?? But you don't care. You know
    that this is good for you now. Then you go, what's the problem.

    Important is to be aware that this is one step. I do this because it is the only
    thing i can do now. I know that in the end i should rely on my presence, this
    is the only absolute thing, but in relative, i have to do this, i have nothing
    else. Then, this relative i don't own. Today it's like this. Tommorrow i am
    like totally different style. Then poeple say but yesterday you were like this
    and today oposite. what happened?? But you do;nt care. It;s not their problem
    it;s your problem. you go on. but you remember final goal is not what you
    are doing in this moment, final goal is to rely on your presence.

    Everyday you check : my condition is like this, my circumstance is like this,
    so i do this. I don;t go with ideas, like i "should do this. This is right,
    this is wrong. This is dzogchen, this is not dzogchen" ;-). We do not apply
    like this. We dont define rule, structure, not saying right or wrong. First
    we take responsibility of our own condition. Means, we become aware. and for
    this teacher says "open your eyes". doesnt say you should do something. just
    says open your eyes and become aware of your condition.

    Then, because he doesnt know what is better for your,
    teacher says do your best ;-)

    Teacher is not judging, no one is judging, if you are judging
    yourself, its your problem.

    Becasuse is very difficult to judge yourself. how you judge. what is right,
    what is wrong. According to what. we can talk for hours, months, years, lives,
    what is right waht is wrong. Totally empty. In the end better do your best ;)

    [ delsi vysvetleni jak se lidi porad ucitele ptaji zda maji udelat A nebo B,
    pripadne rozvijeji slozite teorie o tom co delat na zaklade toho co ucitel
    rekl v roce 1997 nekde, atd.; zamotali se tak, ze vlastne nechapou vubec nic ]

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    Means that always we are beginners and always we check our condition.
    At the end we discover there is nothing to ask. Because when we are taking
    responsibility for our condition, there is nothing to ask someone else.
    Because should rely on presence, not on clarity of teacher, clarity of
    something else, rules and so on. Then Santi Maha Sangha text says,
    when you don;t know what to do, copy the teacher. At least his style make sense. ;-)

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